Great work guys. Im excited to see CELO engage at the grassroot level. This will help us build a strong community and solid products that solve contextual challenges.
Really love this proposal and very supportive of this direction for the Celo Ecosystem! I’m personally very optimistic about a future where Celo Foundation becomes a network of service DAOs that fulfill growth and maintenance functions of the protocol and report directly to the community.
I also think engaging at the grassroots level is the best path forward for our ecosystem, because the communities know best what is needed for their region and DAOs will give agency and resources to act on it.
However in order to make this truly successful and decentralized I think we need to be thinking about how will you operationalize this DAO to be an independent entity. I see a section for Ops but I’d like to see you expand on the on do you have an operational budget?
- What are you planning to use to set up this DAO as a legal entity to be able to pay it’s contributors and comply with local law? Where will the DAO be incorporated?
- What will you use to set up the multisig?
- Is there a buffer for legal and compliance fees? Will you hire a separate agency to do due diligence on your grants?
- Budget for a separate Docusign or other software that you’re planning to use to send agreements.
Love the experimentation with decentralized payments tools, but would love for you to expand how are you planning to use these?
Lastly, what is the thinking around gradual decentralization of this regional ecosystem growth in general, is there a plan in the future to fully transition Africa Eco Leads to be employed directly by the DAO instead of the Celo Foundation? As I understand this proposal is a joint effort between Foundation and community, with @Aliu being employed by Foundation and with ability to employ community members directly by the DAO. I think this is a great first step but how does the community feel about fully transitioning all members to be employed directly by the DAO in the future?
Edit: Wanted to clarify, the reason I ask this is I see a great parallel here to what has happened in other Foundations that decentralized to a DAO. The parallel is these regional DAOs take over functions that used to be performed by the Foundation and report on it to community directly. In this scenario, I see a network of DAOs all preforming different functions that teams at the Foundation used to preform but are now directly funded by the Protocol. While this is not the plan for this iteration of Africa DAO, I’m wondering if this is a direction you are looking to take down the line?
This is also a question to our Celo Community, is this a path we should explore as part of our Road to Decentralization?
This great i believe this whats’ needed for African adoption into the CELO ecosystem, I would to be involved on-boarding the SADC region, especially on Education initiatives & Dev studios for web 3
Hi @annaalexa Thank you for your input!
As stated in the proposal we have set aside 10% of the total budget to pay people running the DAO except for myself who’s employed by the foundation.
We are planning to setup the DAO on XDAO, a multichain supported DAO that also has support for Celo
As we are still gathering feedback from the community, we are realising the needs to add a buffer for other additional running cost that may include platform cost and any other software that would be needed for the success of the DAO
Currently, the plan is to utilise the Celo Jura to cover all legal and compliance aspect (We welcome additional feedback on this)
While this is a great first step in using the DAO to decentralise the Africa ecosystem, we still have a lot of learning process in order to take steps forward to fully decentralise the region activities. To start with, we have provided buffer for 2 ambassadors to be paid by this DAO while we take the chance to learn and grow from the experience it will give us at the end.
I like the above. For the upcoming LatAm DAO the approach is also asking for a grant to Celo Jura for legal and compliance advice and services, relying the decision-making process to the community+DAO+legal experts chosen to help structure.
I understand how the idea of several “service DAOs” w/ “employees” was the method chosen by different Foundations to explore new models of organizing their grant activities. The idea of eventually reaching a level where “Foundations” do not exist (irrespective of the path) is super interesting to me, and the broader perspective of automated systems, societies, orgs (…) is what brought me to Blockchain in the first place. So super interested in seeing this concept evolve and flourish in different levels.
But I think the case at hand may be different from what your comments outline above, and extremely interesting as ignites a community-led DAO operating on a grassroots level (listening and acting closer to the local community), not as a way to render “services”, but rather to allow for learning and building opportunities closer to the community. I think more in the lines of allowing for “public goods” to be created rather than rendering XYZ services. I also don’t think that the DAO should necessarily have employees – but this is a longer conversation that may be impacted by different factors (organizational to legal and budgetary). As I am external to African ecosystem would rely on the local experts + community to design, test and implement the best structure.
As we have discussed in open forums, LatAm DAO proposal is coming shortly with the approach above in mind: how to empower local communities in a grassroots level and with agile formats – and in local languages.
DAOs offer a more vanila method of reaching people on the ground. This proposal looks good.
Great initiative! I fully agree on the potential of empowering communities. Have you thought about governance<>sustainability? I would reinforce the roadmap related to bringing businesses to web3 through the Dev Studio. Powerful idea.
Hi Mila! Totally agree that we are at an early stage of decentralization.
I simply believe that everything we do should be in service of the community. Which is different than being a service DAO, which makes it sound transactional. And I believe regional DAO’s should be serving the needs of the community.
Totally agreed. And I think this proposal nails it.
this great initiative to see - watching with interest as to how things shape up!
Which are these?
Just catching up on this thread here and really appreciate @annaalexa’s long-term sustainability questions. Also she has a great callout for the need for an administrator/ops role within the DAO. While Celo Jura helps to support legal set up and as needed legal assistance, I agree that the DAO should explore how it plans to run it’s own DD, sending agreements etc.
I’d be curious to hear from @nirvaan who recently went through this process with Climate Collective. Do you have any areas that you think the Africa DAO team should focus in on while planning/setting up?
Agreed with points from @annaalexa and @masha - I’d mainly add considerations for a “fiscal host” that allows DAOs/communities/admins to easily file expenses/reimbursements and convert back and forth from Celo-based assets to local currencies. We’ve found this particularly important when organizing events with fiat-based vendors as proposed, as highlighted by AllForClimateDAO.
I’d also like to see a metric of “community hires” eg. how many facilitators/advisors in the n+1th hackathon participated in the nth hackathon? How many participants in education workshops become devrel/ambassadors?
Overall I fully support this proposal!
Hey @Aliu, if you’d like to discuss in this month’s governance call on Thursday, feel free to add a comment here: Celo Governance Call #22 | September 22nd, 2022 · Issue #169 · celo-org/governance · GitHub
Excited to see how we can support more founders across Africa. I’m also supportive of how we can create DAOs that more directly engage with and build ecosystems around the world. A grassroots approach is needed led by people familiar with the local conditions.
I also agree with @annaalexa raising the question on operations and how to make sure this initiative is successful. Similarly, I’d like to get more clarity and info on the strategy, roadmap, intention, and plan for success, but are operating with intention so that this results in strong project development and use cases. A few key items:
- Funding hackathon projects: Hackathons are a good way to find developers and you note that you’re hoping to get VC funding for participants. Could you clarify how many VC funds you’re looking to partner with, funds who have committed, and roughly how much capital you’ll be looking to pull together? Do you also anticipate supporting builders with their pitch decks or do you anticipate that this will be on them?
- Scaling hackathon projects: For hackathons to be successful you’ll need to ensure that participants have a good roadmap for growth. You note VCs but a second piece that might be helpful are finding (1) strong developers you can build out their own position; (2) bringing in traditional partners who would utilize the tech being built by hackathon participants; and (3) mentors who can support founders. Is there a plan for how to ensure projects scale and grow? I know @jason has also had to think a lot about this from the Celo Camp perspective.
- Operating team: Is 5-10 hours per month enough time to support this? I imagine there’s a lot to do here including business development (builders, funders, and web2 partners) and helping projects scale. Also curious on how the hourly cost is higher than the hourly cost for devs.
- Web3 studio for web2 partners: Related to the bullet above, will you all be identifying top tier partners to help onboard and scale web2 solutions? Do you have any sample partners already and what’s your plan for bringing in new partners. Additionally, will bringing web2 partners require a substantial project management and strategy lift—this has often been the case. If so, who will be doing this full time and how many hours will be devoted to this?
- Reporting: Love the transparency. It may be helpful to add additional info from the ones you noted including details on the projects in the pipeline and their status updates so that we also have an idea of the likelihood of success of the projects and developers from this initiative. Number of developers is somewhat helpful but not a real metric since it doesn’t indicate how strong the projects actually are. There should be a mechanism for people to know more on project quality.