# Celo Citizen Retro: Round Details

**URL:** <https://forum.celo.org/t/celo-citizen-retro-round-details/9637>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [December 11, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.celo.org/t/celo-citizen-retro-round-details/9637 "2024-12-11T13:10:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.celo.org/t/celo-citizen-retro-round-details/9637/7 "2024-12-11T16:34:51Z")

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Hello @LuukDAO, thanks for the reply and for being open to making some changes before the program starts. 🙌

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#### Dynamic Systems and Badges

Regarding your comment.

> [@LuukDAO](#):
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> Would assigning Seeds to Community Mods and using the Celo Community Guild systems to measure onchain socials participation make sense? Dynamic systems are always better than one-time allowlists!

I believe these should be two separate badges, as their intentions are quite different:

1. **Council of the Celo Communities Guild Badge:**
  - Recognize the **Council Members** for their efforts across Discord, TG, and Reddit. _(@Anthony, @0xGoldo, and myself)_. You can find reports detailing this work in [this post](https://forum.celo.org/t/celo-communities-guild-reports). I can provide the addresses if needed. 🙌

> [@0xj4an-work](#):
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> **🛠 Celo Community Guild:** Recognize moderators listed in the Celo Community Guild _(@Anthony, @0xGoldo, and myself)._

1. **Celo Communities Guild Participation Badge:**
  - Intended to reward **members of the Celo Communities Guild in Guild.xyz**. This excludes roles like Moderators, folks from cLabs, or the Celo Foundation who don’t receive Seeds. This badge focuses on rewarding the broader Celo Community’s active participation. The list of members and points can be shared by @0xGoldo with @CPG_Stewards if needed. 💬

> [@0xj4an-work](#):
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> 👥 Member of the [Celo Community Guild in Guild.xyz](https://guild.xyz/celo-communities) and points earned in the guild _(tracks activities such as Discord participation and may track on-chain activity in the future)_. The list of members and points can be shared by @0xGoldo with @CPG_Stewards if needed.

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That’s true, usage is a better measure than just the number of contracts. However, I think a combination of **number of contracts deployed** and **transactions executed by those contracts** could work best.

Also good to remark that not all contracts generate the same volume of transactions, but their impact can still align with Celo’s mission.

**For example:**

- Contracts for a DEX, perpetual trading platform, or a tree registry will naturally execute a high number of transactions.
- Conversely, a small lending community contract may execute fewer transactions but with meaningful, user-centric impact.

This nuanced approach would better reflect the diversity of contributions.

> [@LuukDAO](#):
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> Usage of contracts seems to be a better measure of R&D impact than pure number of contracts.

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#### Gathering Addresses for Celo Guardians and CGP Editors

I’ll reach out to gather these addresses and will share the ones that I mangae to collect with you soon. 🛡

> [@LuukDAO](#):
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> The Celo Guardian (and previous CGP editors) seems like a solid addition. Could you gather all current and past addresses and share them with us?

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#### Reliable Data Sources for Governance Badges

Regarding the comment:

> [@LuukDAO](#):
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> The other suggestions are a bit harder as we need a reliable data source to pull the data for the badges. We could make a registry of Founders / Projects in the next iteration.

The suggested badges are supported by accessible data sources:

- **Number of PRs reviewed or merged:** Available from the [Celo Governance GitHub Repo](https://github.com/celo-org/governance).
- **Governance Calls Hosted:** Easy to get from the [readme file](https://github.com/celo-org/governance/blob/main/README.md) of the Governance Repository. Also last Governance Calls were hosted using [Lemonade Social](https://lemonade.social/u/work_0xj4an) a tool that you mention in the POAPs topic.
- **On-Chain Data:** Easily trackable via the [Celo Governance Contract](https://celoscan.io/address/0xd533ca259b330c7a88f74e000a3faea2d63b7972). Specifically:
  - 🗳 **Number of proposals submitted on-chain** (Method: `Propose`).
  - ✅ **Number of proposals executed on-chain** (Method: `Execute`).

These metrics are straightforward to extract and would make the badge evaluation process reliable and transparent.

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#### Governance and Hearts as Metrics

Finally, I respectfully disagree with the idea that **hearts indicate meaningful feedback**. While they reflect content people appreciate, they don’t always measure governance-related contributions accurately. That said, I fully agree that **non-proposal conversations** are valuable and should be recognized. Finding a balance here will be key. 💡

> [@LuukDAO](#):
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> **Governance**  
> Hearts are distributed to content you “love” and a signal of meaningful feedback/suggestion. Yes, reviewers can see feedback and questions on the Proposal as good comments. However, there are also non-proposal conversations on the forum that we want to recognize.

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Thank you again for your openness to feedback, and I look forward to seeing these ideas evolve! 🚀

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